momentum easier than cs:s?

snowy

been practicing surf_not_so_zen on and off on momentum recently. I could usually get a time I was happy with in saveloc around 15-20 minutes, not too big a sweat. went and tried it on ksf after I got a nice saveloc run and found that I was actually having a lot more trouble getting the route/units I want on ksf. went to my cs:s lan server cause I thought maybe it was just ping but nope I had the same trouble in the same places.

u boys think I'm brain fried or what?

Aart

which branch? chaos?

snowy

Aart yea chaos, I have a steam key and on the most recent version

Ark_

Without a way to completely remove human biases, its really hard to tell if something is very subtly off or not.

You would have to do something like creating a TAS and seeing if you can make it sync across versions from css to momentum and back.

That said, momentum isn't technically the same as a lan server, you would need to try in a listen server for a proper 1:1 comparison.

Gocnak

It's very likely that the port to the new engine causes some side effects in movement. For 0.9.0 I was planning to make them closer to 1:1 alongside the Portal-related movement abstraction (among the Fortress Forever import as well).

I've heard crouching for the TF jump modes also feels off, which is odd but might be how the crouching is handled in GO engine.

I've also heard that rampbugs at higher tickrates seemingly don't happen on this weird version of the movement currently as well. We might want to keep that for the TASers! But expect the movement to change a bit more as we approach 0.9.0!